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Obama admin filed motion to dismiss~Federal Court Permits AIG Bailout Challenge
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RNangelER
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Federal Court Permits AIG Bailout Challenge To Proceed
By JOE MURRAY, The BulletinFriday, May 29, 2009 An Establishment Clause lawsuit challenging AIG’s use of its bailout funds to support Islamic activities was given the green light by a Michigan federal judge Thursday when it survived a motion to dismiss filed by the Obama administration’s Justice Department.
The Thomas More Law Center’s case against Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and the Federal Reserve Board will move forward, as the judge reasoned that times of crisis do not permit the government to depart from the U.S. Constitution.
“In this case, the fact that AIG is largely a secular entity is not dispositive: The question in an as-applied challenge is not whether the entity is of a religious character, but how it spends its grant,” wrote Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff. “The circumstances of this case are historic and the pressure upon the government to navigate this financial crisis is unfathomable. Times of crisis, however, do not justify departure from the Constitution.”
The Law Center, which is a public interest law firm, filed the case on behalf former U.S. Marine Kevin Murray. The lawsuit challenged a portion of the “Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008” (EESA) that appropriated $40 billion in federal dollars to fund and financially support the government’s majority ownership interest in AIG.
It is alleged a portion of the $40 billion is being used by AIG to fund Shariah-based Islamic religious activities. Specifically, AIG, a company the government owns an 80 percent share in, participates in Shariah-compliant financing which subjects certain financial activities, including investments, to the dictates of Islamic law and the Islamic religion.
“It is outrageous that AIG has been using taxpayer money to promote Islam and Shariah law, which potentially provides support for terrorist activities aimed at killing Americans,” said Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Law Center.
“Shariah law is the same law championed by Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. It is the same law that prompted the 9/11 terrorist attacks on our soil that killed thousands of innocent Americans.”
The lawsuit says AIG, with the aid of taxpayer dollars, employs a “Shariah Supervisory Committee.” Also of concern is the religious-based tax Shariah-compliant financing levies to support those individuals who “struggle [jihad] for Allah.”
Some of the charities that are beneficiaries of the tax are connected to terrorist organizations hostile to the U.S. and U.S. interests.
Justice Department lawyers attempted to dismiss the case by arguing Mr. Murray did not have the proper legal standing to make his constitutional challenge. And even if Mr. Murray had standing, it was argued government funding of AIG activities did not violate the Establishment Clause. The Court disagreed.
“In this case, the United States government has a majority interest in AIG. AIG utilizes consolidated financing whereby all funds flow through a single port to support all of its activities, including Sharia-compliant financing,” Judge Zatkoff wrote.
The federal judge argued the government gave AIG taxpayer dollars “without restricting or tracking how this considerable sum of money is spent” and indicated evidence suggested some of the money was used to support Sharia-compliant financing. Such facts, in the judge’s opinion, constituted a viable case.
“These facts, taken together, raise a question of whether the government’s involvement with AIG has created the effect of promoting religion and sufficiently raise Plaintiff’s claim beyond the speculative level, warranting dismissal inappropriate at this stage in the proceedings,” he wrote.
Mr. Murray filed the lawsuit because he objects to government funding of Islamic beliefs and practices predicated upon Shariah law. He charges Shariah law is hostile to the Christian faith.
Joe Murray can be reached at jmurray@thebulletin.us
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05-30-2009 03:28 AM
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Obama admin filed motion to dismiss~Federal Court Permits AIG Bailout Challenge
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I wonder if this is what they were trying to "hide" when all of the flak came about from the AIG bonus's?
Ironic that our very own government may have been helping to support the very terrorists we are fighting. Talk about a lack of oversight.
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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05-30-2009 03:47 AM
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Well this cannot be pinned on Obama, The lawsuit, which was filed in December of last year in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, is a constitutional challenge to that portion of the “Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008” (EESA) that appropriated $40 billion in taxpayer money to fund and financially support the federal government’s majority ownership interest in AIG, which engages in Shariah-based Islamic religious activities that are anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish. Thomas Moore is the law firm filifng the charges and the above is the link to their site
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05-30-2009 09:39 AM
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An Establishment Clause lawsuit challenging AIG’s use of its bailout funds to support Islamic activities was given the green light by a Michigan federal judge Thursday when it survived a motion to dismiss filed by the Obama administration’s Justice Department. Well the inital lawsuit might not be, but Obama is the one that wanted it dismissed..so yes he can be held accountable for it.
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05-30-2009 09:43 AM
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RNangelER
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It is Obama's watch now. Geithner is named as the defendant.
This PDF is from the link you provided. You can see for yourself who is listed as the defendants.
http://www.thomasmore.org/downloads/sb_thomasmore/AIGCase-OrderDenyingDefendantsMotiontoDismiss.pdf
This section is also from the link you provided
'In his well-written and detailed analysis issued yesterday, Judge Zatkoff denied the request by the Obama administration’s Department of Justice to dismiss the lawsuit. The request was filed on behalf of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and the Federal Reserve Board – the named defendants in the case'.
pat4dogs wrote:
Well this cannot be pinned on Obama, The lawsuit, which was filed in December of last year in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, is a constitutional challenge to that portion of the “Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008” (EESA) that appropriated $40 billion in taxpayer money to fund and financially support the federal government’s majority ownership interest in AIG, which engages in Shariah-based Islamic religious activities that are anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish. Thomas Moore is the law firm filifng the charges and the above is the link to their site
Message Edited by RNangelER on 05-30-2009 03:17 PM
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05-30-2009 02:30 PM
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Whatever, since this forum has become the home of Obama bashers and little else, I am not going to argure anymore. You guys have fun living in your own little world
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05-30-2009 03:25 PM
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Obama admin filed motion to dismiss~Federal Court Permits AIG Bailout Challenge
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"It is outrageous that AIG has been using taxpayer money to promote Islam and Shariah law, which potentially provides support for terrorist activities aimed at killing Americans,” said Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Law Center." What is so hard to understand about this?
“Power is not sufficient evidence of truth” Samuel Johnson (Poet)
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05-30-2009 06:39 PM
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pat4dogs, no one here is making Obama run an unethical and incompetent administration.
pat4dogs wrote: Whatever, since this forum has become the home of Obama bashers and little else, I am not going to argure anymore. You guys have fun living in your own little world
“Power is not sufficient evidence of truth” Samuel Johnson (Poet)
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05-30-2009 06:40 PM
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right wing Bible thumping extremist
The Thomas More Law Center is a not-for-profit public interest law firm dedicated to the defense and promotion of the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored family values, and the sanctity of human life. Our purpose is to be the sword and shield for people of faith, providing legal representation without charge to defend and protect Christians and their religious beliefs in the public square. We achieve this goal principally through litigation, seeking out significant cases, consistent with our mission, where our expertise can be of service to others. We also defend and promote faith and family through media and educational efforts.
Our ministry was inspired by the recognition that the issues of the cultural war being waged across America, issues such as abortion, pornography, school prayer, and the removal of the Ten Commandments from municipal and school buildings, are not being decided by elected legislatures, but by the courts.
Message Edited by DTI on 05-30-2009 07:00 PM
When I''m not in my right mind ~
my left mind gets pretty crowded
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05-30-2009 06:56 PM
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